10 Best Careers for INTJs and INTPs

12 02 2009

Combining the hourly pay data from BizJournal’s survey of employers, PayScale.com’s polling of employees,[1] and US News’ career guide, I have culled ten standout careers from the many recommended for INTJs and INTPs.

  • Best Bets Overall – Consultant/Lawyer: Two careers stand out as not only highly recommended for INTJ/Ps but also rather lucrative. Although a few other careers are recommended ahead of them for INTJs and INTPs, Lawyers ($58 or $68/hour) are still near the top for both and make substantially more than other career options.[2] Management Consultant ($35/hour or $61/hour) is not only one of the best paid careers but also even more highly recommended for both INTJs and INTPs than Lawyer. Do the long hours for consultants taper off with experience as PayScale’s graphs imply, or are Managers and Partners also caught up in the 65 to 75 hour work weeks? If it’s the latter, consulting might be downgraded, but US News picks it as one of the Best Careers for 2009 while calling Lawyer an overrated career so I kept them both on equal footing.[7]
  • Highest-Paying Career / Career in Health – Doctor: If the absolute most important thing to you is salary or you know you want to be in a health-related field, then being a Doctor ($67 or $70+/hour) might be the way to go. They are less recommended for INTJ/Ps than Consultants, Lawyers, and Engineers but are still on many lists. Despite making more than these other options, Doctors must invest in far more school and training, so the eventual higher income might not make up for the income lost by not working. Although US News counts Physician as an Overrated Career, it also recommends Veterinarians and Optometrists as Best Careers for 2009.
  • Best Careers without an Advanced Degree or Killer Hours – Engineers / System Analysts: Although an advanced degree will help, Engineers* ($22/hour or $38/hour) [2] and System Analysts ($22/hour or $37/hour) can get started making decent money right out of college and are both recommended in US News’ Best Careers 2009. The same can be said of Consultants (above), but they must also work incredibly long hours. In addition, those who stick with it might become Engineering Managers or Computer System Managers, the sixth-highest and eighth-highest paid careers in the United States, respectively, according to BizJournal. Economists/Auditors ($21/hour or $28-$37/hour) and Scientists were also options here but are not as highly recommended for INTJ/Ps or included in Best Careers 2009.
  • Career with Minimum Hours / Career in Education – Professor: If you want to maximize your free time but still make a solid living, then you should consider being a Professor ($33/hour or $46/hour), which has the lowest number of required hours of any career recommended for INTJ/Ps. US News notes Professor as an Overrated Career, and the average 7 years in a PhD program without making any substantial income reduces actual lifetime earnings relative to other careers, but there is no denying that the eventual schedule is the most flexible. [2, 3] Teacher ($22/hour) is also recommended for INTPs and is on US News’ list of “Overrated Careers.”[4]
  • Non-Profit/Public Sector Career: The career “Manager” is rather vague, but it is a top recommendation for INTJs and could be the ticket for those interested in public service. While US News notably warns against Non-profit Manager, it recommends Government Manager. Although it likely requires the investment of an advanced degree, it returns salary ($28/hour) and hours on par with Engineers and System Analysts, recommended above.
  • Building/Design Career: The best Architects and Urban Planners could have done in my previous posts on INTJs and INTPs was the bottom tier of recommendations, because Team Technology did not really include them in their survey. Recommended for INTJ/Ps on most other sites, these careers and others like them could be excellent fits for this personality type. Kind of a compromise between Architects and Urban Planners, Landscape Architects make about the same amount ($24/hour), but can get started without an advanced degree. In addition, they have a higher level of job satisfaction and a better market outlook than Urban Planners, while regular Architects are panned as an overrated career. Unfortunately, the downswing in the economy has been particularly detrimental to these professions.
  • Creative Careers: Although selecting a creative career is likely based more on the inclinations of talent than anything else, Writer stands out because it does make a little more ($23/hour or $27/hour)[5] than other options like Graphic Designers ($16/hour or $23/hour) or traditional artists (fine artists, musicians, actors, etc.). In addition, one strain of Writer, the Ghostwriter, is recommended as a Best Career 2009 by US News.
  • Random Extra Career: For INTPs who want to directly help people through interacting with them, Occupational Therapist ($32/hour) could be an excellent choice. It is recommended for INTPs and is included in US News’ Best Careers 2009, but keep in mind that is not as highly recommended for INTPs as the other options above, and US News’ Report Card shows they probably barely made it onto their list.

CareerCast’s Jobs Rated ranking of 200 jobs takes even more factors into account, including stress, physical demands, and the environment. Not surprisingly, these additional elements make options for “Best Careers without Killer Hours” (System Analysts at #6) and “Career with Minimum Hours” (various research-oriented/professor-like careers) comprise more than half of the top 20.[6] All the other careers listed above comprise the middle 40% of the ranking, with Technical Writer (#60) and Occupational Therapist (#61) at the top of that group and Teacher (#127) toward the bottom. The only career for INTJ/Ps outside the top 70% is an Actor, coming in at #170.

Notes

  1. PayScale’s salaries, which are the median of those reported, will generally be lower than BizJournal’s, which are skewed higher due to highly compensated employees at the top of the spectrum in their respective careers.
  2. Lawyers, Professors, and Engineers who work for hospitals make about 20% more than their peers in other sectors.
  3. PhD’s in Business Administration might be a different story, with starting salaries averaging $86,000 (in 2001), substantial growth potential and non-academic opportunities, and a shortage of business professors.
  4. If you want to be in education, a good alternative might be Curriculum Designer.
  5. Some writers can actually a little more. Technical writers average $27/hour, and grant writers, after paying their dues for 10 years, end up averaging $29/hour.
  6. Biologist (“Scientist” above) #4, Software Engineer (“Engineer” above) #5, Systems Analyst #6, Economist #11, Physicist #13, Computer Programmer #18, and Astronomer (“Scientist” above) #20 are all in the top 10% along with a variety of research-oriented/professor-like careers–Mathemetician #1, Historian #7, Sociologist #8, Philosopher #9.
  7. Before you run out to apply for business school, Vault’s articles on Consulting are highly worthwhile: Reality Check – Changing Careers to Consulting, What It Takes to Be a Consultant, and Consulting Caveats.




The Most Recommended Careers for INTPs

10 02 2009

This post groups careers recommended for INTPs across the web into four groups, from the frequently mentioned possibilities to the universally recommended options.  For a more in-depth consideration of careers taking into account salary, job outlook, and job satisfaction in addition to personality fit, please see “10 Best Careers for INTJs and INTPs.”

Many online sources (noted at the end of this post) provide lists of possible careers based on your Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), but their suggestions can seem like personal “brainstorm lists” and sometimes contradict other lists. Team Technology did the most thorough assessment, actually surveying employees to learn about their professional preferences by personality type. This post sorts these recommended careers into four tiers, from decent possibilities to the most highly recommended options for INTPs. Careers that were on one or two lists but not others and therefore excluded from the recommendations below are Surveyor, Trainer, “Sales,” Assistant, and Forest Ranger.

  • Tier IV – Possibilities: Five careers fall into this tier, which includes strong possibilities for INTPs that are not consistently recommended across all sites. At least three “brainstorm” lists suggest Forensics/Investigator and Architect, but neither was a part of the Team Technology survey. In contrast, Human Resources, Manager, and Marketing Specialist are recommended in the Team Technology survey, but by only one other list. These three also seem to be recommended for almost every other personality type and are more strongly recommended on other sites for INTJs.
  • Tier III – Good Options: At least 3 out of 5 “brainstorm lists” suggest Professor/Researcher, Writer, Economist/Auditor, Business Analyst / Investor and Doctor as possible INTP careers, and Team Technology’s surveys of employees back up these recommendations. I also include Teacher and Occupational Therapist in this tier. Even though only one “brainstorm” list suggests these career, the survey results at Team Technology indicate that INTPs strongly prefer these occupations, despite the fact that these jobs do not occur as possibilities for INTPs to personality experts.
  • Tier II – Excellent Options: Like Tier II options, all of these are suggested by most “brainstorm lists,” but I have moved them up a notch for one of two reasons. Lawyer/Judge and Artist/Actor are recommended by all of these lists, showing an overall consensus that they are excellent choices for INTPs. Kiersey’s site happens to not mention Computer Programmer/Specialist in its description of careers for INTPs, but it is clear that the write-up is not meant to be exhaustive, and the survey results from Team Technology suggest this as an even better option than the previous two.
  • Tier I – Best Options: Three careers are almost universally recommended for INTPs and therefore make the cut here as the top recommendations. Engineers and Consultants / Strategic Planners are mentioned on all but Kiersey’s lists and are on both of Team Technology’s lists. Various types of Scientists are recommended on every single list of suggestions for INTPs, so it seems pretty much impossible to go wrong here if you’re an INTP.

Consultants / Strategic Planners, Lawyers/Judges, Doctors, and Economists/Auditors are recommended with about the same strength for both INTPs and INTJs and are probably the best choices for someone who feels like s/he is a mix between the two. In contrast, someone like this might want to stay away from a number of options recommended for one type but not the other: Forensics/Investigator, Business Analyst/Investor, Teacher, Occupational Therapist, Architects, Designer, Military Officer, and Urban/Environmental Planner. Managers, Professors, and Writers are suggested for both personalities but more strongly recommended for INTJs than INTPs; the opposite is true of Scientists, Engineers, Computer Programmer/Specialists, and Artists/Actors. With the exception of Writer and Artists/Actors, these differences probably reflect Keirsey’s observation that INTPs are the “most reserved” of “Rational” personality types, which includes both INTJs and INTPs.

Of course, the best career choice is not necessarily the one that happens to show up on the most lists. Social impact, possibility for artistic expression, and income are important considerations that personality test do not consider in when making recommendations. In another post, I review the best careers for INTPs and INTJs taking more than just personality fit into account.

Sources Used for Ranking Career Possibilities: Ordered from best to worst, but all are valuable.

  1. INTP Careers: A List of Professional Jobs: List of careers actually based on original survey research.
  2. Rationals – Finding Knowledge & Competence: A descriptive approach to defining career options enhances the persuasiveness, and the Keirsey approach overall seems accurate. The list clearly does not try to be exhaustive.
  3. Wayne State College Advising Services: INTP: Advice drawn from a number of different sources, a couple of which are included here.
  4. Jedi Girl & Personality Page: Both straightforward lists surrounded by reasonable explanations, but not backed by data or research.
  5. INTP (Engineer) Personality Type – Jung, Myers and Briggs: The best-looking and well-organized page overall, but sources for career suggestions are not clear.




The Best Job Boards for a Non-Profit Job Search

24 11 2008

If you are looking for reviews of job boards and job search engines but are not necessarily limited to the non-profit sector, check out ConsumerSearch’s review of the reviews or LifeHacker’s “High Five” article. Although not mentioned below, I’ve found LinkedIn and UC Berkeley’s “Planning Jobs” online job board useful (8%). Numbers in parentheses indicate the percentage of the jobs to which I’ve applied that have come from that particular source.

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Everyone knows you can look for a job online, but, if you’re like me, you’re kind of turned off to the big names in online job boards like Monster, CareerBuilder, and HotJobs. Especially for non-profit jobs, these resources can be sorely lacking: despite returning about 50, 25, and 12 “non-profit” results respectively, these Big Three produced just a few postings of real interest to me. I have reviewed about thirty online job boards and search engines and have found five sites that, combined, should make your online (non-profit) job search go more smoothly and perhaps even completely supplant the Big Three. These services are listed as “Tier I” below, followed by middling sites like Monster in Tier II. I of course conclude in Tier III with the dozen other sites I looked at that completely sucked.

  • Tier I: For the most efficient and straight-forward non-profit job search, you could probably stick to the five job boards here in Tier I and do fine. All of these boards or search engines produce a good number of results targeted at your location, and all but one have feeds so you can sit back and let the job postings come to you.
    1. The Best – craigslist: If you had to pick just one site to use for your job search, I would suggest craigslist. It has more non-profit jobs than any other job board, including the non-profit specific ones detailed below. Unlike search aggregators, you know that all the jobs listed when you check “non-profit” are actually non-profit jobs, not just jobs that happen to have the word “non-profit” somewhere in their description. You can also set up a feed so the postings come to you as they appear. The geographic filtering is a little clunky since you have to go with craigslist’s built-in regions as opposed to selecting radius around a specific a zip code or city, but I find this to be a minor weakness. Finally, craigslist jobs do not seem to be snagged by the search aggregators, so even if you want to use these powerful tools, you will be missing out on a number of opportunities listed only on craigslist. (63%)

      craigslist

      If you use only one site for your non-profit job search, it should be craigslist.

    2. Sector-Specific Job Boards – Idealist & Opportunity Knocks: These two sites are specific to the non-profit sector and produced dozens of results for my test searches in the Bay Area. Opportunity Knocks is the only site without feeds among Tier I job sites but is also the only site that has job application functions built into it: you can write and save cover letters and resumes on the site, so if you don’t have your own set-up elsewhere, Opportunity Knocks could be a nice hub for a narrow job search. Idealist.org seems to have more results and has feeds, making your search easier and likely more fruitful. If you had to pick just one, go with Idealist, but Opportunity Knocks is still way better than options in Tier II and is likely worth the effort. (21%)
      Idealist's non-profit job postings do not seem to be captured entirely by search aggregators, so it's worth a visit for the job seeker.
      Idealist’s non-profit job postings do not seem to be accurately or fully captures by job search aggregators, so it is worth a visit.
    3. Search Aggregators- Indeed & SimplyHired: SimplyHired and Indeed are job search aggregators that pull postings from hundreds of other sites for you to search in one convenient location. They does not break jobs into focus areas, so you have to use “non-profit” as a keyword to hone in on non-profit organizations, which ends up producing a lot of irrelevant results. However, even excluding those unfiltered useless postings, these search engines produce more results than Opportunity Knocks and Idealist and, in fact, pulls directly from these sites. Unfortunately, they does not seem to catch all the postings’ information accurately. For example, five part-time jobs are posted on Idealist right now, but none of them are among the six SimplyHired has listed or the 86 on Indeed. Until misses like this are rectified, one must continue to use these aggregators in conjunction with other services rather than as one-stop-shops. I’m not sure which one I would pick between the two if I had to pick one; Indeed seems to get more results than SimplyHired, but many of them are pretty inaccurate.
  • Tier II: All of these job boards return a reasonable number of results for the non-profit job seeker and are worthwhile in a fully expansive job search. Well-known national job boards Monster and HotJobs seemed to have more relevant results than CareerBuilder; only Monster has feeds, but you can save searches at the other two and have them emailed to you as new jobs are posted. Non-profit-specific Bridgestar produced even more jobs, but, without automated emails or feeds, you must constantly return to the site to find new posts. Fresho does have feeds and also produced a number of results, but its results are driven by SimplyHired, so it remains to be seen how unique they are. execSearches did not return that many results, but it is specific to non-profits and has a feed; it doesn’t hurt to add it to your feed reader and never think about it again. (8%)
  • Tier III: If you are desperate or want to procrastinate, these search might be able to help you out, but it is extremely unlikely since they all have severe limitations. DotOrgJobs, nonprofitJOBMARKET.org, and LuckyDogJobs returned a couple results each, not worth following. Publicservicecareers.org might be good for job seekers with a PhD, but not others. GO Jobs, Job.com and Net-Temps all have a decent number of results, but nothing for non-profits. Jobs in Pods and Work Ministry seem to more appropriate as tools for a job search driven by other sites or methods. LinkUp is a search aggregator that had lots of results, but none of them were accurate on first glance. TheJobPlanet also produces a number of results, but most of them start repeating after the first dozen and many are generic “WORK FOR THE ENVIRONMENT” kinds of ads. Alliance for Non-Profit Management and HSCareers.com are both non-profit-specific but have very few jobs posted. The following “job boards” completely suck: NationJob, Hire Cafe, GottaGetaJob, America’s Job Board, Company Explorers, and Teleport Jobs, Talent Spider, and OpenDoorJobs.

For more specific comments from me and others about these job boards, check out the reviews on JobBoardReviews.com.





The Most Recommended Careers for INTJs

9 08 2008

This post groups careers recommended for INTJs across the web into four groups, from the frequently mentioned possibilities to the universally recommended options.  For a more in-depth consideration of careers taking into account salary, job outlook, and job satisfaction in addition to personality fit, please see “10 Best Careers for INTJs and INTPs.”

At a crossroads in my professional life, I’ve been investigating ideal careers for artistic, socially-conscious INTJs like myself [1]. Many online sources (noted at the end of this post) provide lists of possible careers based on your Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), but their suggestions can seem like personal “brainstorm lists” and sometimes contradict other lists. Team Technology did the most thorough assessment, actually surveying employees to learn about their professional preferences by personality type.[2] Most include a variety of jobs within them; for example, “Cardiologist,” “Psychiatrist,” and “Neurologist” were all recommendations for INTJs, but I just grouped them under “Doctor.”

  • Tier IV – Possibilities: Three careers fall into this tier, which includes strong possibilities for INTJs that are not consistently recommended across all sites. Every single “brainstorm list” recommends that Scientist is a viable career path for INTJs, but actual scientists surveyed by Team Technology were, on average, not of this personality type. In contrast, only one “brainstorm” list suggests Human Resources for INTJs, but it is recommended by Team Technology’s surveys. However, all but two personality types appear in the Human Resources mandala, so it’s not a particularly unique field for INTJs [4]. Urban/environmental planners came up on over half the brainstorm lists but do not seem to have been included in Team Technology’s study [5].
  • Tier III – Good Options: At least 3 out of 5 “brainstorm lists” suggest Computer Programmers/Specialists, Doctors, Artists, and Economists/Auditors as possible INTJ careers, and Team Technology’s surveys of employees back up these recommendations. All of these would make good choices for INTJs, though Team Technology does make a distinction between Artists and the other three that you may wish to consider.

    INTJs, this could be you!

    INTJs, this could be you!

  • Tier II – Excellent Options: Like Tier II options, all of these are suggested by most “brainstorm lists,” but I have moved them up a notch for one of two reasons. Lawyers/Judges and Engineers are recommended by all of these lists, showing an overall consensus that they are excellent choices for INTJs. Kiersey’s site happens to not mention Military Officers and Writers [3] in its description of careers for INTJs, but it is clear that the write-up is not meant to be exhaustive, and the survey results from Team Technology suggest these as good options even more than the previous two.
  • Tier I – Best Options: Four careers are almost universally recommended for INTJs and therefore make the cut here as the top recommendations. The clearest recommendations are Professor/Researchers and Consultants / Strategic Planners, which every single “brainstorm list” suggests and which are on both of Team Technology’s lists. [6] Also strongly recommended are Designers and Managers, but these careers are more vague. For “Designers,” Team Technology’s surveys included mostly graphic designers, but other sites also recommended web site designers, curriculum designers, special effects designers, and architects, which do not seem to fit into any better category on Team Technology’s site. As for “Managers,” Team Technology includes nearly 70 different jobs in this category, and, not surprisingly, it is recommended for nearly every personality type. A more careful assessment of this vague “career” is likely in order. [4]

Of course, the best career choice is not necessarily the one that happens to show up on the most lists. Social impact, possibility for artistic expression, and income are important considerations that personality test do not consider in when making recommendations. In my next post, I will review the most lucrative of the most highly recommended careers for INTJs.

Sources Used for Ranking Career Possibilities: Ordered from best to worst, but all are valuable.

  1. INTJ Careers: A List of Professional Jobs: List of careers actually based on original survey research.
  2. Rationals – Finding Knowledge & Competence: A descriptive approach to defining career options enhances the persuasiveness, and the Keirsey approach overall seems accurate.
  3. Wayne State College Advising Services: INTJ: Advice drawn from a number of different sources, a couple of which are included here.
  4. Jedi Girl & Personality Page: Both straightforward lists surrounded by reasonable explanations, but not backed by data or research.
  5. INTJ (Strategist) Personality Type – Jung, Myers and Briggs: The best-looking and well-organized page overall, but sources for career suggestions are not clear.

Notes

  1. I also looked at a few careers that I thought of myself, but discarded most of them for a poor fit with the INTJ personality. I have the credentials to be a Real Estate Developer, which is also a decent way to make a living, but nothing like this appeared anywhere on recommendation lists for INTJs. “Chief Executive” is a better fit for an ENTJ, though I want to investigate CFO or COO to see if those versions of the role could work. Although Foundation Officer did not appear on any lists, this job is fairly unique and probably not included in most studies, so I’m keeping it under consideration for future investigation.
  2. Careers that were on one list but not others include Nurse, Mortgage Broker, Corrections Officer, Librarian, Clergy, Counselor, Marketing Specialist. Entrepreneurs/Self-Employed individuals surveyed strongly as INTJs with Team Technology but are suggested as INTJs only once elsewhere.
  3. You may notice that “Writer/editor” appears only in one list on Team Technology’s INTJ, just like the options I placed in Tier III. However, the vague “Technical Specialist” in List 1 actually refers mostly to Technical Writers, so I took this as a strong recommendation for INTJs as Writers.
  4. At some point, reviewing career recommendations feels like reading horoscopes; the recommendations are so broad and written in such generic language that you get the feeling that all the recommendations for other personality types might be applicable to you too. Indeed, “Human Resources”, “Marketing”, and “Manager” seem to be universal recommendations for almost any personality type. If you are confused about your personality type, go for one of these careers; with little exception, you can’t go wrong!
  5. I used to think Urban Planning was the perfect career choice. Indeed, INTJs like me are quite prevalent in the field, as this forum of planners indicates, but I was unable to get my head around how planning address both my artistic proclivities and social equity issues while I was in grad school. Bicycles and public transportation, affordable housing (i.e., knowing what’s best for poor people), gentrification, architecture, worshipping Manhattan, and hating suburbs: what’s not to like for a righteously liberal white boy like myself, especially if you get to study at a fancy Ivy League for graduate school? Unfortunately, I was unable to overcome my own argument that social equity and elitist design co-exist only in utopia. In addition, earning the same salary after graduate school as I was getting beforehand made me wonder why I don’t just go back to work in the non-profit world, and, until recently, that’s exactly what I did.
  6. Professors/Researchers supposedly have a preference for their “primary function” of “Introverted iNtuition” while Consultants prefer their “auxiliary function” of “Extroverted Thinking.” For more information in this terminology, please visit their page on the Myers Briggs – Dynamic Model, but do not expect to find more insight into the precise distinction between people who prefer their primary over their secondary function and vice versa.
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Personality & Career Path

9 08 2008

Everyone, particularly those on the brink of entering the work force or contemplating a serious career change, should be aware of how their personality fits with their career. Doing work that matches your own proclivities will not only ensure ongoing daily satisfaction with your job but also more likely lead to more substantial financial rewards. The web is full of free personality tests that can help match you with potential careers. Of the many personality tests out there, I find approaches based on the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) to be the most coherent and applicable. This post notes the best way to figure out your MBTI personality type, why other tests aren’t quite as good, and other considerations worth noting for selecting your best career path.

  • Using MBTI-Based Tests: I find the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator to be highly accurate, though you have to be able to know when they are a bit off or when you yourself are going through a temporary personality phase. The test on similarminds.org spat out my personality type after a quick test, and mypersonality.info serves as an excellent centralizing site for quotes, snippets, and links to the best websites out there for describing MBTI personality types. It’s supposedly off base for 1 in 4 people, but when you read the descriptions you can figure out what the best fit is. You will also notice type placement to stick over the course of time: my approach to work has shifted somewhat over the course of ten years, but it’s clear the most consistent elements of my work mindset are at the core of my INTJ personality.* Once you have ascertained your personality type, check out MetaRasa.com to see how it aligns with your current job.
  • Why not other tests? Other tests incorporate additional preferences and thus might be able to refine your list of recommended careers more than a MBTI-driven career test. For example, tests will try to determine whether you are driven by helping others or by personal gain or whether you prefer “creative” or “artistic” activities to more mundane ones. However, by introducing these additional variables (sometimes at the cost of other essential personality traits that MBTI covers), other personality tests increase the possibility that their predictions for you are off-base or too narrowly focused. It’s also tougher to self-correct for an erroneous test, since the tests don’t generally show the other possible outcomes of the test. I also find “helping others” and “artistic” elements to a job are easier to weave in and out of a career path than other aspects more fundamental to one’s personality. Finally, these parts of a career preference are most likely to directly contradict one another; for example, high design and social equity do not seem to go hand in hand in urban planning, so anyone hoping to appreciate both at once would be disappointed.
  • Additional Considerations: Clearly, additional considerations must be taken in a career path other than personality fit. Salary, job growth, location, etc. are all important, but most careers suggested by personality type tests are possible to pursue in any metropolitan area, so these issues are subsidiary to the personality concerns.

I have learned from personal experience how important personality fit is to your career path. In my previous role as an Executive Director of a non-profit, the job started out as a multi-faceted, constantly varying role as we started up our organization; not surprisingly, “Organization Founder” is one of the recommended jobs for people like me. As the organization evolved, so did the role, and, as advocacy, networking, and interpersonal interactions moved to the center of the job, my interest concurrently shifted. Using the excellent resources on MetaRasa.com, I was able to see clearly how my job had come to diverge from my personality; the diagrams below show how different the two are:

Light areas show areas critical to success, focusing on extraverted feeling.

Job Demands Diagram: Light areas show areas critical to success, focusing on extraverted feeling.

Light areas show areas of strength in personality, focusing here on introverted intuition.

Personality Diagram: Light areas show areas of strength in personality, focusing here on introverted intuition.

In my next post, I will look at jobs that are particularly well-suited for INTJs like myself.

* Ten years ago, I originally tested as an INFJ, but realized INTJ was a better fit; I had just been going through a touchy-feely phase at the time of the test. Nowadays, I’m pretty entrenched on the “Thinking” side of the spectrum, but have moved closer to the “Sensing” side away from “iNtuition.”

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“No Regrets”

15 04 2007

I’ve been known to hold it against people when they say they have “no regrets” about anything they’ve done in their lives. While this bold sentiment is probably appropriate for young adults who don’t have enough experience to gain anything by second-guessing themselves, it is a lamentable attitude to maintain as one gets older. To have no regrets implies that one believes he/she has never made any mistakes and, worse, has not learned anything from past experience that would alter how he/she might act under similar circumstances in the future. This concept defies my ongoing belief that, as tough as it might be, people can, should, and do change as they mature. Needless to say, I have been stumbling upon some regrets milling around in my head the past couple months, and I thought I would record what I have learned from reflection. This “advice” is primarily for people in young adulthood, who are making decisions about colleges, majors, their first jobs, and maybe graduate school.

  1. Follow Your Instincts: The simplest realization I have come to is something that many people intuitively grasp already and may or may not apply to everyone, and it is this: follow your instincts, especially when you are young. While some’s instincts are better than others, one thing is for certain: young adults do not have the experience to make purely “rational” decisions about major life choices and many times the best reasons for a particular choice will not become apparent until later on. I have generally held to my own advice here and have never regretted it: I chose Swarthmore College largely on my gut feeling about the prospective students I met there during “Spec Weekend”; I turned down and exotic job in Morocco a year after college because I “felt” that I needed to stay home after my mother died; and I left my wallowing in urban planning to return to City Year largely on my impulse to do something in the aftermath Hurricane Katrina. None of these decisions were whimsical and had plenty of “reasons” to back them up (financial aid at Swarthmore, a job alternative to Morocco, etc.), but they were fundamentally driven by instinctive “reasons” that could not have been fully fathomed at the time of the decision.
  2. Your College Major Does Not Matter, So Do What You Want: I have come to believe that the only only impact a major at a liberal arts school like Swarthmore has on your future is to develop a lifelong passion for a particular area of knowledge. In my case, that major should have been Art/Art History, as that was the only subject in which I had an ongoing interest every semester, but because I thought I needed a more “serious” major, I went with the Honors Program in History. Though I learned how to skim and my writing improved, I could have accomplished this more easily through Art History classes in which I would have had a more sustained interest. The only other valid “reason” for selecting a major is the perceived difficulty of that major, which usually favors heavily quantitative disciplines like Math, Chemistry, or Economics. Ironically, before switching to History, I was an Art/Economics double major, which I thought would have been too “easy.” Even though I’m able to put “Honors” on my resume, I also notably don’t put my GPA, which would have been a lot better had I pursued the disciplines I really enjoyed. A year is a long time, especially when you are young, and dropping a couple of them to pursue something in which you are not really interested is not smart.
  3. Do Not Go to Graduate School Without Knowing What You Are Getting Into: With my closest friends running off to prestigious grad schools, I started worrying that I was not maximizing my time/talents working at City Year. I probably wasn’t, and I still think it was time to further my education. However, Tim Burke, my favorite professor of History at Swarthmore warns against blindly jumping into graduate school. Even though he is referring to pursuing a Ph.D., his comments apply to any graduate program, and, despite having read his thoughts, I started my Master in City Planning program at Penn with very little knowledge about urban planning and the hope that I would be able to “experiment” in the field once there. Even worse, I turned down a free ride and a fellowship in Temple’s Urban Studies program, which I could have done while also continuing to work full-time at City Year. I had a number of “reasons” for choosing Penn: international scope, the quality of an “Ivy League” institution, and the design elements of the program. However, Penn did not deliver on the first two, and I did not really capitalize upon the third. (Ironically, maybe if I would have done more with the design side of urban planning if had stuck with that Art major in college…) In the end, I blew two years of my life and $200,000 in loans, lost wages, and fellowships when I could have instead “experimented” in a much more low pressure program at Temple while continuing to gain job experience at City Year.
  4. Passion Supercedes Prestige, Though Both Matter: Both of the bad decisions noted above suffered from some degree of self-inflicting elitism. I felt like I wouldn’t have “maximized” my Swarthmore experience if I hadn’t done the Honors Program and, similarly, wouldn’t have had a “quality” graduate experience at anywhere other than an “Ivy League” institution. I am not saying that you should never try to pad your resume or that you should not go to an Ivy. I’m just saying those should not weigh as heavily in your decision-making as factors like your actual passions and knowledge about a particular field, because your inherent interest will ultimately lead to excellence on whatever path you choose. It does not really work the other way around: I have found it difficult to find passion when I’ve taken the prestige-maximizing path.

I cannot possibly guess what my life would have been like had I followed all the advice above and made my decisions differently. My mistakes are the only reason why I have the above advice in the first place. However, given where I am right now, I feel pretty comfortable saying that making different decisions would not have eliminated my current life from the realm of possibility while simultaneously making the road getting here a little richer and more fulfilling. I did not need a History major to feel lost after college and stumble upon City Year; I could have done that just as easily with a double-major in Art and Economics. In addition, my eventual return to City Year begs the question as to why I left in the first place. I could have stuck around for another couple years in Philadelphia, pursuing a Masters at Temple and helping to lead the Program Department. Although being able to say I “managed a $14M USAID post-tsunami reconstruction grant” probably helped to get “Executive” slapped onto my job title when I came to Louisiana, my experience at Penn and Chemonics has not actually done much for me here, and the endless work I put into this job last year would have ended me up where I am now anyway, just $200,000 richer.





What I Want To Be When I Grow Up

22 03 1992

An advertising manager?!
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As I near the end of my days of schooling in the Chapel Hill/Carrboro City school system, I realize that I must start thinking about what I want to do with my life, or I will have no aims, no goals for the future. There is also within perhaps all of us an unquenchable desire to search into the future, to predict what might happen. Considering my future is unavoidable. The need for planning is, however, sometimes not a priority among many people today. This project is a step in the right direction.

When I took the self-interest test (see Section Two), I began to realize what I was in for before I even tallied the results. I knew for sure that Art would be one of my “clusters.” It always has and probably always will. My interest in Business surprised me slightly as I took the test, probably because I have never been exposed to this area. Art can be a hobby as well as an occupation. However, business is not a commonly known hobby done in one’s leisure time.

I had considered what type of occupation I would want in art in the past. Comic book artist was an old favorite, but more recently, as I realized that I wanted to earn a decent living, I had considered being a commercial artist. Thus, advertising had first become a possibility in my mind.

My three job clusters were Entertainment, Legal, and Business. I knew that I would want to be a leader in any of these positions. The Legal cluster is like being a leader in itself. In general, I would have leaned towards being a lawyer, which I do not consider as having a hierarchical ladder of leadership. In business, obviously the head of some corporation or manager of some department thereof would be my choice. Entertainment…well, this could be interesting. I looked at the list, and there it was. The very last occupation listed: Advertising Manager.

I was not even exactly sure of what an advertising manager was, except by simple common sense. But what exactly did one do? When I began to research, I hoped it would turn out to be as interesting as it sounded.

And it was. Advertising covers a wide range of skills and responsibilities. These duties are generally divided up among departments in larger companies, but the variation is so expansive that I am convinced that almost anyone could find enjoyment in advertising. To be the head of an advertising agency would definitely be a job worthy of note (perhaps the reason for a salary of well over $100,000 per year). These people are vital to the consumer world, for they are the ones who link the suppliers of products or services with the consumer. Without advertising agents, the consumer would be in the dark as to what there is out there for their very needs and wants. It is this incredible importance, along with the wide range and variety of jobs an advertising manager must be able to handle (and the acceptable pay) that compelled me to enter the realm of advertising and marketing.

To be an advertising director, one must have dozens of abilities if they desire to be successful. As an advertiser, one must have a two-faceted mind, able to handle both creative ideas and logical problem-solving. This includes having good judgment, analytical and statistical skills, and a thoroughness and meticulousness that exceeds what the average person has. One must possess an inner drive to succeed and to understand. As Mr. Kurtz said in his interview (see Section Six), an advertiser must be a “student of life.”

As a director, one must have skills to lead and influence others. There must be a willingness and a capability to work with others. In order to do this, good communication skills, both visual and verbal, should be developed. These skills should be used to persuade others (clients) and to set standard of work (employees). One must also be capable of taking some credit for successful work, as well as share any blame for unsuccessful work.

But before any of the above can be accomplished, an ultimate understanding of the human mind must be possessed. This great psychological requirement was stressed in all of the sources I looked at. As Mr. Kurtz stated, one must desire to find the “why?” behind all matters, and the climax to this is the “why?” behind the human mind. The whole point of advertising is to get into the consumer’s mind and to convince him that one certain product or service is better than another. This cannot be done without comprehending their deepest desires first, and this is the idea of psychology itself. What would make someone desire to do something or to not do something else?

This may seem to be a lot, and it is. An advertising director must be able to do many things and work under high stress. Pressure is intense when there is a deadline coming up, and the deadlines are many in advertising.

These are only the requirements for success. When someone goes out for a job in advertising, it is highly unlikely that they will instantly become a manager. There is a definite ladder that must be climbed, as explained later. At first, one will work under an employer, who generally looks for minimal education after high school.

One source claimed that it is possible to get a job in advertising without a college education, but higher education was so stressed in other sources that I do not believe that this is a viable option. Generally, a bachelor’s degree is the minimum looked for. A master’s or higher is preferable. The range for majors is wide, as the field of advertising is wide, but some repeatedly recommended ones are listed below: advertising, business, communications, journalism, liberal arts, marketing, and psychology. The courses in and out of these majors that relate to advertising are so extensive that I dare not list them here or I would be continuing for pages to come.

Despite numerous sources’ marked stressing of the importance of training, especially Mr. Kurtz, it seems that training in advertising is becoming a rarer and rarer thing each day. It is nearly impossible to get any job in advertising without a college degree, and thus getting training is hard. However, if training is gained, according to Mr. Kurtz, its value will have no end, for to him, experience is the most important thing to an advertiser.

One cannot understand anything until it is seen working in real life. It is this experience, too, that will lead to a quickened climb in the ladder of advertising.  Looking at the college offerings, I found there to be an extensive number which provide advertising majors. I had to narrow the number down, so what I did was to look for colleges that were extremely difficult to enter. This narrowed the number down, but not enough. What I wanted was to find a short list of several colleges that were just right for me. So I limited other factors as well. I decided I preferred to go to a college with a medium sized student body and in a large town/small city. I decided I wanted it to be co-ed. As I continued I found that had actually slashed all but one school: Trenton State College. It fell into all of the above categories, as well as ones I did not mention. I smiled slightly in satisfaction that I had succeeded and got a small printout. This was acceptable.

The activities of an advertising manager totally depend on the agency. In a small agency, the activities will cover a broad range, but their quantity will be much less than in a larger, more powerful agency. In a larger agency, there will be more work, but it is generally divided up among separate departments. In addition, the type of agency must also be considered. In an agency that is hired to do advertising for different companies, the variety of products worked with would be much greater than in an advertising department of a certain company, exclusive for its own purposes. Below I will describe the process through which an advertisement must go before it is revealed to the public. Keep in mind that for each step of the way, there may be a separate department handling the situation, or there may bei^as little as justj one man dealing with everything.”

First, the agency must meet and negotiate with (they client5to find out what their needs are. There is extensive communication between the two to make sure that the agency knows precisely what the clients want. Research into past advertising ventures of the client are performed to predict what is necessary this time around. But the research does not end there. The agency further studies consumer attitudes and demand and gathers information for demographics on the client’s product. They also conduct surveys to find out what exactly the consumers themselves want. This information is compiled for further study.

Next, the client’s desires, the demographics, and any other information are put together. An appropriate mode of advertisement is chosen and planned out. A budget must be prepared, broadcast time or publishing space must be bought, and talent for producing the advertisement must be found.

Then, production begins. Copywriters write copies of the print for publishing or script for broadcasting.

Artists draw up layouts of various pictures or set designs for the advertisement. Actors prepare for their roles in the ad. Materials are bought for production. The clients are constantly checked back with to make sure that the production is going as they initially wanted. All of this comes together in the end when the advertisement is either taped or printed. Thousands, maybe even millions, of dollars go into advertising and the final step must be perfect, or all that money has been wasted.  At last, the advertisement is ready to be introduced to the general public. Its effects on sales are recorded and studied so that either the same tactics may be used again, or entirely different ones are brought into play.

All of these things are in the hands of the advertising manager. They must supervise, plan, and participate in all of these activities. Unwillingness to do any of these things will result in lack of success. Of course, one may take to the road of being a department head and attempt to avoid some of these responsibilities. While this is perfectly acceptable, the head of one department is always in contact with the heads of other departments so that they can keep up-to-date on the newest developments in the advertising campaign.

All of this work is hard and tiring. The stress and pressure levels are extremely high. There are constantly changing schedules and deadlines, and the hours can become increasingly long as extra work is being put in at home and on the weekends.

These conditions are somewhat made up for by the comfortable surroundings that generally accompany being an advertising manager. Work is mostly done in a well-lit, air-conditioned office at a computer console. Especially with work in small, in-house agencies, an advertising manager will remain stationary. In fact, it is a disadvantage to move about, for many vital local contacts and friends would be lost. However, some travel may be required in larger advertising agencies. Clients from all a over the world must be met and they can tend to demand that the agency comes to them, rather than they come to the agency. Shooting commercials on location at foreign shores also requires travel. There is also travel of managers from regional headquarters to national headquarters for meetings of large corporations. Travel will certainly increase as advertising and commerce together become global.

Obviously, there is a ladder to climb in an advertising agency, as mentioned above. This ladder is as follows: worker, assistant director, director, department head, chief executive. Because of the tremendous variety in advertising, “advancement” occurs often, as responsibilities change. Advertising agencies provide extra education for those interested, so they can increase their knowledge in the field and increase their chances for advancement. Much can also be self-taught and a truly dedicated hard worker will find himself rapidly advancing in the field of advertising.

The salary range for advertising varies from as low as $15,000 to far beyond $100,000 per year. This is entirely based upon one’s specific location on the ladder and his personal experience. Generally, a beginning worker with a bachelor’s degree can expect anywhere form $15,000 to $25,000 per year. As one’s experience increases his salary increases with it. An experienced worker could get as much as $40,000 per year. However, I intend to be working as a manager before I reach this level of experience. Managers usually do not get less than $20,000 per year. On average, they get about as much as an experienced worker, $40,000. Generally, most managers will not get more than $60,000 per year, but salaries as high as $100,000 and above are not unheard of, especially for chief executives of independent advertising agencies. The above figures are only round estimates of generalizing specific data from several separate sources. They are not hard figures or statistics.

Other benefits that advertising managers get include stock in their company, paid vacations, holidays, and sick leave; insurance; and money towards retirement. The extent of all this is based on the amount of responsibilities the manager has, his skill, and his experience.

But how does one first begin to climb the ladder and gain experience? As explained earlier, entrance into an advertising agency generally requires at least a bachelor’s degree. College placement offices and state employment offices are a good way to start. Scrutinizing want ads in the classified section of any newspaper is sure to turn up results. Sometimes, one may be approached by agency scouts who are actually looking for workers with skill and talent. But one should always be on the lookout for job openings. Constantly improving education through school and training (if available) will increase the chances of getting a job in advertising.

In general, the chances of getting an advertising job in the future will increase. As we head towards a global economy, there will be increased amounts of advertising going on. The potential for new jobs is incredible. Competition will be high, especially in independent advertising agencies, as opposed to in-house agencies. The ladder will become ever-longer and no doubt salaries will constantly be on the rise. Advertising is a booming business now, and it can do nothing but increase with time.

I have found the field of advertising to be broad and fulfilling. It is all that I expected and more. I cannot possibly say now that this is what I want to do with my life, but it is certainly a possibility. There are thousands of other jobs out there, and if I find that they all possess as surprisingly broad a range of duties as advertising, I will certainly become a very confused individual.

However, I am sure that if I do decide to go into advertising, that there will be no end to the variety that I demand in a job. It is this variety that am finding to be ft «, most important to me. I find that I enjoy doing many things that are not necessarily related in any way to each other. .h But advertising not only provides the variety that I am A looking for, but it provides it in many different forms. For example, I could be the department head in a large advertising agency and deal with dozens of different types and kinds of products and consumers, becoming an expert in one aspect of each (research, planning, production, etc.) as we work through the advertising campaigns for each one. Or I could be the advertising manager of a small in-house agency, dealing with only one type of product, but handling all aspects that come up about it. The only question would be where in this vast world would I choose to make my start.

All of the other values that I stated as being important to my occupation are realized in the job of being an advertising manager. With the long ladder to climb, a life in advertising will be one constantly improving in work, salary, and power. All of these things are important to me.

I have also found that I am quite well suited a job in advertising. Many of the personal requirements demanded in an advertising manager that I talked about above I already meet. Obviously, advertising is a big possibility for me that should not be ignored. This will way heavily in the future.

In fact, this may be my future. One never knows, and it is good that I am being prepared for my future at this stage in my life.

SECTION 3; Bibliography

“Advertisinq Agency Workers,” #113. Chronicle Guidance. Moravia. N.Y.

“Advertising Agent,” Occupational Outlook, # 6. Careers, Incorp. Largo, Florida.

Kurtz, Steve. Marketing Director, UFAB. Interview, Kurtz residence. 2:00 P.M. February 29, 1992.

“Marketing, Advertising, and Public Relations Managers,” Encyclopedia of Careers and Vocational Guidance. 81th ed., Vol. 11, pgs. 386-389.

Sales Promotion / Marketing Manager.  12 2 7. Careers, Incorp. Larqo, Florida.
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Originally written for Mrs. Brooks Advanced English I class at Chapel Hill High School.